The coronavirus is raging in China, and in a global world, infectious diseases can spread rapidly across the world. At best, the damage is effectively contained; at worst, it unfolds like a dystopian American film. What do you think, do people dare to travel to Asia now?
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The coronavirus
There is currently an outbreak of a novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan in Hubei province, central China. The majority of confirmed cases have been identified in Wuhan. Cases have also been confirmed in several other cities in China and in a number of other countries.
Spread of the Coronavirus
More than 9,800 cases of the novel coronavirus 2019-nCoV have been diagnosed and 213 people have died as a result of the infection, according to the latest update from the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC) (31 January).
All deaths to date (reported on 31 January) have occurred in China. Most cases outside China have occurred in the rest of Asia (Japan, Thailand, Singapore, etc.), but there are only 10-15 confirmed cases per country. There have also been isolated cases in the US, Canada, Australia and various European countries. Yesterday, a first case of the coronavirus was confirmed in Sweden.
This information will of course soon be out of date, but you can read continuous updates at Public health authorities and on ECDC website.
Advising against non-essential travel to Hubei province
The Ministry for Foreign Affairs (MFA) is advising against non-essential travel to the province of Hubei in China. According to the Public Health Agency of Sweden and the World Health Organization (WHO), most of the evidence currently indicates that close contact between people is required for the virus to be transmitted. The MFA's decision is based on a broader assessment of the situation.
Flight cancellations
SAS is cancelling all flights to China due to the coronavirus. In this context, SJ chooses to refund all train tickets to and from flights that cannot be used by travellers.
Where can I find information on the coronavirus?
Many newspapers are writing about the coronavirus at the moment, and that's fair enough, but should people's concerns be exploited for profit? One of the biggest online newspapers wrote (roughly): "Mouth guards don't help - but this helps". To read that article, you had to become a subscriber and pay. Kind of ugly, isn't it?
It's true that regular masks don't help, but washing your hands and not picking your face or eyes does. If you want even more free of charge information can be found at Public health authorities.
Do you dare to travel to China now?
If you follow the UD's advice, you should not travel to Hubei province for the time being. Hubei is located in central China, south of Beijing and west of Shanghai. China is huge and there is no advisory for the rest of the country, but people have fallen ill in other parts of China as well, and of course we don't know how it will develop.
Personally, I might not be so keen on China right now, but would prefer to wait until things settle down or turn around. What would you think?
Do you dare to travel to Asia now?
In the rest of Asia, there are far fewer confirmed cases and no deaths so far. The countries with the most confirmed cases are Japan (14 cases), Thailand (14 cases) and Singapore (13 cases). Personally, I wouldn't be too worried about the rest of Asia right now, but I would make sure to keep an eye on developments. What are your thoughts?
Where do you think the coronavirus is going?
What do you think will happen to the coronavirus? Will it stop spreading soon, or will there be an even bigger outbreak?
Facts about the coronavirus
- Symptom: Respiratory symptoms, fever and cough. Most people do not become seriously ill, but some develop more severe symptoms and death occurs.
- Incubation period: 2-14 days
- Vaccine: Not available
- Treatment: Treatment focuses on supporting the function of organs, such as the lungs and kidneys.
Spread of infection and protection
- This is how the disease is transmitted: Through contact with infected people or through coughing and sneezing.
- This is how the disease is not transmitted: Experience from similar previous outbreaks shows that viruses are not transmitted via parcels/mail.
- Risk of spreading in Sweden: Currently assessed as very low.
- That's how you protect yourself: Wash your hands or use hand sanitiser, avoid contact with infected people, do not touch your face/eyes. Masks do not protect.
Helena from Finland says:
We go to Krabi on 18 February if the situation does not deteriorate radically. Thailand is still quite calm but you never know...
01 February 2020 - 8:55
Helena says:
Have a nice trip! Travelling is probably perfectly fine! But of course you have to follow the situation so that it doesn't suddenly change radically. I would think the same way.
01 February 2020 - 17:10
Liniz Travel says:
Ugh so terrible virus!!! Feels uncomfortable I think!
Have a nice weekend
Hugs
01 February 2020 - 9:21
Helena says:
How unpleasant it is to have infectious diseases that spread quickly!
01 February 2020 - 17:10
Ditte says:
I don't think you can ever fully protect yourself and I'm not at all worried about getting infected.
We lived in China during swine flu and were never really worried then either and there were many measures taken everywhere. At all schools in Beijing, the fever was checked every morning and likewise at the airports. If you had more than 37.5, I think it was, there could be extra checks with sampling.
We also travelled a lot in Asia, so we weren't too worried. It is good to keep track of the UD's pages if you want to cancel or rebook a trip.
WHO also has a good website to follow and quick info. Right now I would perhaps refrain from China and the areas around Wuhan but not Asia as a continent. Many dangers lurk in other ways in Sweden.
01 February 2020 - 9:40
Helena says:
There are always dangers everywhere and you can't worry about everything all the time. At the same time, you shouldn't take unnecessary risks, so it's good to keep an eye on the situation.
01 February 2020 - 17:11
Monica says:
We are all different and make different risk assessments. Most people choose not to worry and think that they should not panic. I think we should try to be as realistic as possible. Instead of counting different numbers of rather low cases in countries outside of China (so far), we must instead look at the fact that the WHO has now declared the situation a global health hazard. With the rapid and uncontrolled rate of spread, nobody, say nobody, knows how this will develop. The virus is spreading exponentially - each infected person is estimated to infect three more. This is insidious because the incubation period is long and people are infected without showing any symptoms. You also don't know how seriously you will be affected if you fall ill. There is evidence that people are dying. Personally, I would not go anywhere in the world right now unless it was necessary. Why expose yourself to crowds at airports, sit cramped in aeroplanes where you don't actually know or have any guarantees that everyone around you is not infected? I wouldn't travel to any country that doesn't have effective containment capabilities or adequate health care resources. It is naïve to think that people washing their hands every few days and not touching their faces will help. This is contact and airborne infection - invisible! But this is me and my thoughts. I think in prepper terms in other contexts as well without trying to exaggerate so my possible "wanderlust" I had put on the shelf now. The world is still there after all and it is probably more fun to visit without people with masks everywhere!
01 February 2020 - 9:44
Helena says:
Of course, we all make different risk assessments. That's a bit interesting. In many travel destinations, traffic is the most dangerous, but there are often completely different things to worry about ... It's always a balancing act between not worrying too much, but at the same time not exposing yourself to anything reckless. And of course we all draw that line a little differently, and certainly differently for different types of hazards as well.
01 February 2020 - 17:14
4000mil says:
It's good that you're writing about this, Helena, as you are familiar with public health and can evaluate the information.
I wouldn't go to China, it would be a bit uncomfortable, but I wouldn't hesitate to go to the rest of Asia.
I also think that the general reason to stay home right now is not to contribute to the spread of the virus. Rather than fear for their own sake.
01 February 2020 - 9:46
Helena says:
Good point you made about not contributing to the further spread of the virus. You can be vaccinated against ordinary flu, but not against this one. Of course, some people are more likely to become seriously ill than others.
01 February 2020 - 17:15
Mickey says:
Going to Vietnam on 8 February. More likely to have an accident at work than to meet an infected person.
01 February 2020 - 10:18
Helena says:
It's dangerous to live, in general ... Have a nice trip!
01 February 2020 - 17:16
Eva - People in the Street says:
Great post! Well, I'm not particularly keen on travelling to China now. It will be another time in that case.
Our next trip will be to Hawaii at the beginning of April so it will be interesting to follow the developments with spreading. Fingers crossed that it is stopped quickly ...
01 February 2020 - 12:01
Helena says:
Yes, China can be better visited at another time, if you can choose. Hawaii sounds lovely! Of course, we keep our fingers crossed that this is stopped quickly!
01 February 2020 - 17:17
Snows says:
When the swine flu came, there was almost hysteria, which is never good. I don't think you should be terrified, but it can make sense to act with common sense. Right now, I would not travel to China.
01 February 2020 - 14:42
Helena says:
Well, that's the balance you try to strike ...
01 February 2020 - 17:17
Maria's Memoirs says:
If flights to China are cancelled, I feel that I will have to choose another destination for the time being. Had I already had a trip booked to a place in China that I was very much looking forward to and the flight goes as usual, I might have gone, if it is not an area or city with a noticeable number of infected people. But China is not at all included in any travel plans so fortunately I do not have to take a position on it 🙂 Thailand etc. I had not been worried about at present, there are already a number of other diseases that I think the risk is greater that you can suffer from there (food poisoning, salmonella, dengue etc.). I also blogged briefly about Corona today, but not nearly as informative and well-written as in your blog 🙂.
01 February 2020 - 16:00
Helena says:
At present, there are certainly other diseases that are more likely to be contracted in Thailand, for example. Then you have to keep track of the development. Will look into your blog! 🙂
01 February 2020 - 17:19
Monica says:
I just want to add that my previous post is based on the fact that I just moved back to Sweden after ten years in France. They have a completely different approach and preparedness for different types of disasters - infections, floods, strikes, fires. This is after two world wars, which Sweden has no experience of whatsoever. I therefore still follow the French and American/British media to get a better picture of reality, plus of course the Swedish media. And I can say that the Swedish media are much more "lame", in general terms, everything is about toning down and making sure there is no panic. From an international perspective, they see all this quite differently. They are fully reporting on the WHO and their assessment, updating the situation hourly, talking about risks and the fact that more and more countries (except Sweden) are bringing their citizens home via specially chartered planes and putting them in 14-day quarantine in their home country. The United States has now closed its borders to people who have been to China and most airlines (now also SAS) have stopped their departures to China. Foreign media show pictures of empty ghost towns, disinfection, doctors making statements and people who are not panicking but know what is going on. I'm puzzled by the Swedish attitude - it's as if it's about being able to choose when you can't even get there anymore? Well, I don't feel like it right now? Now the Public Health Agency of Sweden has finally asked the government to classify the situation as socially dangerous - maybe Swedes will also realise that this is contagious far beyond China's borders, that you should be careful with travel, crowds and planes in particular, not just to Asia right now?
01 February 2020 - 16:19
Helena says:
I agree that it can be good to get news from several sources! The WHO also has good information, I agree, it's on the WHO website that I got the advice on washing your hands, for example.
01 February 2020 - 17:31
BP says:
Asia has never really appealed to me, except for Japan and maybe Vietnam. But right now I think it would be foolish to take a chance.
I think China has done a fantastic job of containing the spread and handling the whole situation with a transparency that I never thought it would show.
Most airlines have stopped travelling to and from China, and the country has been quarantined. So even if you have booked a trip, you will (fortunately) not be able to enter the country anymore.
01 February 2020 - 17:38
Helena says:
China is impressive in realising great things in a short time, where the rest of us are lagging behind so to speak ...
03 February 2020 - 7:20
Mr Johan says:
There may be a reason for this as everything is centralised and it is called Communism. This is the only time it is good.
04 February 2020 - 11:24
Ulf Bergman says:
It would be foolish to take a chance
Do you not read or hear or see?
You're not on the Dummy?
01 February 2020 - 20:03
Helena says:
Thank you for your comment. We have referred to the situation (as of 31 January) and asked for comments and thoughts on this.
03 February 2020 - 7:21
Veiken says:
I turn the question around:
If someone falls ill with the Coronavirus in Kiruna. Would you dare to stay in Sweden?
02 February 2020 - 2:11
Helena says:
Of course it is always interesting to turn questions around! (Though maybe not as easy to leave your home country as not travelling to a specific place.)
03 February 2020 - 7:22
The Blacks says:
Will go (5 Pers) to Wietnam 29/2, the dream trip to some island apparently in 2 v, feels like that but we will go, agree with the one who was going there on 8/2 ...
02 February 2020 - 10:10
Helena says:
Have a nice trip! Hope things settle down and that you feel good when travelling!
03 February 2020 - 7:23
Carl Bergfors says:
I agree with Monica.
Someone around me who is travelling to Asia doesn't see it as more serious than a cold.
You can never guard against the unexpected. But if you know that some people who fall ill gasp for breath or their kidneys are destroyed and 3% dies, I see it as a calculated risk and why take it if it can be avoided?
02 February 2020 - 20:52
Helena says:
The unpleasant thing about it is that it spreads quickly and there is no vaccine.
03 February 2020 - 7:26
Charlotta says:
Hello!
My daughter and her friends are leaving tomorrow to backpack in Asia, starting in Thailand. I have felt safe with this until yesterday when two infection control experts appeared on SVT and said that it was doubtful to go to Thailand. Where can I find more information about this?
03 February 2020 - 7:41
Helena says:
Hi Charlotta! There are currently 19 people who have fallen ill in Thailand (and most who fall ill do not become seriously ill), so from that perspective it is extremely few in a population of many millions. But of course I can't comment on the development. Here are some good information sites:
https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/smittskydd-beredskap/smittsamma-sjukdomar/coronavirus/fragor-och-svar-om-nytt-coronavirus/
https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/smittskydd-beredskap/utbrott/aktuella-utbrott/coronavirus-wuhan-kina-januari-2020/
https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/geographical-distribution-2019-ncov-cases
https://www.who.int/health-topics/coronavirus
03 February 2020 - 7:55
Monica says:
If you still think this seems trivial, you might want to try watching tonight's Agenda on SvtPlay. Exactly what I have tried to explain is now what experienced Swedish professors say. This virus will continue to spread - especially to neighbouring Asian countries including Thailand and Vietnam. None of them would travel there now, nor would they unnecessarily visit airports or get on a plane with an overseas destination. Just now it is also reported that in the French plane that brought home 250 EU citizens, including 11 Swedes, 20 of the passengers have shown signs of infection. All countries except Sweden are quarantining their repatriated citizens for 14 days. In Sweden, people are encouraged to stay at home voluntarily! Meanwhile, several Chinese planes a week land at Arlanda airport without any special passenger checks at all. Other countries including the US are effectively closing their borders!!!
02 February 2020 - 23:32
Helena says:
Hi Monica! I don't know if you think we have written in a trivial way, or if you mean more generally? I don't perceive myself as seeing this as a trifle in any way. We referred to the situation (as of 31 January) and asked for comments and reflections. Very interesting to read everyone's comments and thoughts. So thank you for that!
03 February 2020 - 7:29
Monica says:
No, of course I did not mean your way of describing this. Today, just a few days after your post with comments here about, for example, that it would not be particularly risky to travel to Thailand, it sounds completely different. Especially after the Agenda item I referred to where two very knowledgeable experts were doubtful about it. One of them would even fly outside Europe in this situation! These are people who know what they are talking about - they are now unanimously saying that the situation cannot be fully assessed for at least a month.
04 February 2020 - 9:42
Helena says:
Yes, of course, the situation can change all the time. So that's why it's important to update yourself and check the latest on the situation.
04 February 2020 - 20:24
Riitta says:
Hi !booked a one month trip to Thailand 18/2-16/3 home, can the country stop the flight home?due to Corona virus infection?
03 February 2020 - 15:19
Helena says:
It's hard to imagine that. They just flew Swedes home from Wuhan. And there is no advisory to Thailand. But of course I don't know how things are developing. There is information, and questions and answers about travelling, on the Swedish Public Health Agency: https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/smittskydd-beredskap/smittsamma-sjukdomar/coronavirus/fragor-och-svar-om-nytt-coronavirus/
03 February 2020 - 18:20
Maria Jonsson says:
I watched Agenda yesterday and thought that now there will be a lot of questions. My daughter is going to Thailand in 2 weeks and it didn't feel good to get that info from Agenda. If it is inappropriate to go, I would like the UD (is it well that has that function?) goes out with it. If you cancel now, you will not get any money back?
03 February 2020 - 20:53
Helena says:
Hi Maria! Yes, you are absolutely right. UD only advises against Hubei province (at least right now as I write). You can see UD's information about China here: https://www.swedenabroad.se/sv/om-utlandet-f%C3%B6r-svenska-medborgare/kina/
03 February 2020 - 20:59
Helena says:
And here you can find up-to-date information on Thailand: https://www.swedenabroad.se/sv/om-utlandet-f%C3%B6r-svenska-medborgare/thailand/
03 February 2020 - 21:00
Lena - good for the soul says:
Yes, damn it, how unpleasant that is! I would not want to take a chance on going there. Now it has also come to Sweden so it feels sufficiently "exciting" anyway!
Hug Lena
04 February 2020 - 6:30
Helena says:
Infectious diseases are of course unpleasant, especially when you can't control their spread.
04 February 2020 - 20:25
black kitchen mixer tap says:
We're leaving tomorrow for Thailand and it's a bit of a struggle.
It's sad when you spend so much money.
05 February 2020 - 14:35
Monica says:
Among many other things that are difficult to assess in this situation, I think we should consider what the experts in Agenda pointed out. If you are travelling to non-European countries where there is a risk of infection and it happens, these countries' healthcare systems will be very strained. You risk not getting adequate care if you fall ill yourself. The situation can quickly deteriorate and there may also be difficulties in getting out of the country. As one of the professors said: "you should be able to come home too". The general attitude is, for example, to wait several weeks before booking trips to Thailand...
04 February 2020 - 9:52
Helena says:
Yes, you can wait to book. But many people have already booked tickets to Asia, and since there is no travel advisory outside of China, you won't get your money back. So it's a more difficult decision than just waiting to book a ticket.
04 February 2020 - 20:27
I Monica says:
The first reports in December of a doctor who cared for the sick and understood what was going on were silenced in this dictatorship, he continued to inform and was visited by the secret police with threats. He soon fell ill himself. We know little about what has been going on, but now it affects the country so much that they themselves have become afraid. About their economy and the former ambassador here has been completely silent. Swedes have also testified about the lack of hygiene, sniffling coughing and spitting mucus directly on the floors of stations in the country while waiting to be informed. The same reports come from Thailand. We here only get to see the masks ... even the guys on TV seem naive in their statements. Still, it feels like swine flu, but the worse scenario is a new Spanish flu. Christians who are persecuted in this country have received messages that the situation is critical. And they have a difficult struggle in their church. You have to interpret that. You have to follow other than Swedish media, better keep an eye on BBC, German media, African, even Asian media.
04 February 2020 - 18:31
Helena says:
Yes, the fact that they seem to have wanted to suppress it initially is unpleasant, and certainly led to it spreading further.
04 February 2020 - 20:28
Christine - 29°. says:
I am in Asia (Indonesia) at the time of writing and did not refrain from travelling there. But I would prefer not to visit China and unfortunately we have a stopover there in mid-March. So we need to find a solution to get around that. But since there is a long way to go, we'll wait and see how everything develops (it's too early to get money back from the airline).
06 February 2020 - 14:06
Mikkel From Denmark says:
Hi there. Here is a quick update from Denmark. I am travelling to Thailand, Laos and Cambodia in a few weeks. I am in no way worried about the corona virus. It seems that the situation at this time is fairly under control (although of course it can change quickly).
Overall, it seems that Danes and the Danish authorities are generally calm about the situation. The Danish Ministry of Foreign Affairs only warns against travelling to China and Hubei province. So we keep our fingers crossed that travelling to the rest of Asia remains safe.
13 February 2020 - 11:19
Yam says:
I have an employee who has been in Thailand for 2 months and is flying home on 3 March via a stopover in Russia.
Can Russia stop these stopovers and what is the current situation in Russia?
27 February 2020 - 14:02